Fixing Fairness: A Results Based DEI Reset that Works with Lily Zheng

Eps. #159 Tuesday, January 27th, 2026

In this episode of the HR Mixtape podcast, host Shari Simpson sits down with Lily Zheng, a FAIR strategist and consultant at Zheng Consulting. They delve into the pressing topic of fairness in the workplace, emphasizing the need for measurable DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) practices that drive real outcomes. This conversation is timely as organizations increasingly recognize the importance of creating inclusive environments that enhance employee experience and foster psychological safety. Lily's insights challenge traditional approaches, urging HR leaders to focus on problem-solving and collective decision-making to address systemic issues.

Listener Takeaways:

  • Learn how to identify and measure the right metrics that truly reflect employee experiences.

  • Discover why psychological safety is essential for fostering good conflict and open communication.

  • Explore strategies for reframing DEI initiatives as critical business investments rather than mere compliance efforts.

Hit “Play” to gain valuable insights that can transform your HR practices!

Guest(s):  Lily Zheng, FAIR Strategist and Consultant, Zheng Consulting

 

Lily Zheng

FAIR Strategist and Consultant

Zheng Consulting

Guest(s): Lily Zheng, FAIR Strategist and Consultant, Zheng Consulting

Lily Zheng (they/them) is a sought-after speaker, strategist, and organizational consultant who specializes in hands-on systemic change to turn positive intentions into positive outcomes for workplaces and everyone in them.

A dedicated changemaker and advocate, Lily has had their work published in the Harvard Business Review, New York Times, and NPR. They are the author of The Ethical Sellout, DEI Deconstructed, Reconstructing DEI, and the new book, Fixing Fairness: 4 Tenets to Transform Diversity Backlash into Progress for All. Lily holds an MA in sociology and a BA in psychology from Stanford University.

They live with their wife in the San Francisco Bay Area and can frequently be found putting together yet another all-black outfit and enjoying good Chinese food.

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Shari Simpson

Shari Simpson stands at the forefront of the human resources field, blending 20 years of rich experience with cutting-edge educational credentials. With an MBA, MHRM, Certificate in E-commerce Management, and SHRM-SCP certification, she is now pursuing a Doctor of Education in Leadership and Innovation at Purdue. As the HR Mixtape podcast host, Shari shares invaluable insights with industry experts, establishing herself as a thought leader in HR. She is a sought-after speaker at local and national conferences, collaborating with industry leaders to elevate HR, payroll, and business sectors. Beyond her professional achievements, Shari is a proud mother of three sons—one a veteran and two currently serving in the US Navy—a dedicated dog mom and an avid reader. Her 25-year marriage to a fire department Chief adds depth to her understanding of service and dedication.

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