Pizza Won't Save You: Daily Leader Habits That Keep People From Quitting with Dr. Sharon Grossman

Eps. #205 Tuesday, October 20th, 2026

Most companies know turnover is expensive. Plenty of them still answer it with a pizza party on Friday and call that culture.

Dr. Sharon Grossman, Retention Strategist at Turnkey Retention Solutions, spent years as a psychologist coaching people out of burnout before she turned to the problem companies would pay to fix. She wrote Don't Buy Their Lunch, Buy Their Loyalty and has taken the idea to the TEDx stage.

In this episode, she breaks down:

  • Why one-off perks and three-day retreats fade, and what a daily "slow drip" of leader behavior does in their place

  • How her HABIT system (huddle, appreciation, barometer, improvement, and tracking) fits into 10 to 15 minutes at the start of every shift

  • What happens when you plug salary and turnover rate into a simple cost formula, and why the result wakes leadership teams up

Hit “Play” to gain valuable insights that can transform your HR practices!

Guest(s): Dr. Sharon Grossman, Retention Strategist, Turnkey Retention Solutions

 

Dr. Sharon Grossman

Retention Strategist

Turnkey Retention Solutions

Guest(s): Dr. Sharon Grossman, Retention Strategist, Turnkey Retention Solutions

Sharon Grossman, PhD, is a psychologist and industry expert dedicated to solving the employee retention crisis.

With over 20 years of experience and a Doctorate from Fordham University, Dr. Grossman moves beyond surface-level perks—a philosophy captured in her book, Don’t Buy Their Lunch, Buy Their Loyalty and shared on the global TEDx stage. She specializes in translating complex psychological research into high-impact strategies that stabilize workforces and sharpen leadership decision-making.

From the stage, Dr. Grossman empowers organizations to transform their culture before disengagement turns into attrition, ensuring that top talent doesn't just stay, but thrives.

Dr. Shari Simpson

Shari Simpson, EdD, SHRM-SCP, leads thought leadership at a technology company and is the founder of HR Swagger, LLC and DTG Leadership. With more than 20 years of experience in human resources, she focuses on leadership, culture, and learning experiences that help people do their best work. Shari is also the host of the HR Mixtape podcast and a frequent speaker on modern HR, leadership, and workplace transformation. Her work blends practical HR strategy with a people-first approach that helps organizations build connection, clarity, and momentum.

Beyond her professional achievements, Shari is a proud mother of three sons—one a veteran and two currently serving in the US Navy—a dedicated dog mom and an avid reader. Her 25+-year marriage to a fire department Chief adds depth to her understanding of service and dedication.

https://askhrswagger.com
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